Confronting Pathological Lying In The Church

Shattered Glass As A Lens

0:00 SPEAKER_00: The movie Shattered Glass and Pathological Liars in the Christian Community.

0:05 SPEAKER_00: Proverbs 26-26.

0:09 SPEAKER_00: His malice may be concealed by deception, but his wickedness will be exposed in the assembly.

Scripture On Deception And Exposure

0:16 SPEAKER_00: Pathological liars can create significant disruption within the church.

0:20 SPEAKER_00: With the rise of the Internet, these deceitful individuals can easily organize themselves, leading to widespread manipulation at an alarming rate.

0:30 SPEAKER_00: It is, therefore, not surprising that the evil one would align these individuals with God's faithful in order to stir up persecution against those who love the truth.

0:41 SPEAKER_00: Nothing produces more combat than a man who has the truth in the inmost part and pathological lies.

0:49 SPEAKER_00: Psalm 516 shows us the prayer of a righteous man.

0:54 SPEAKER_00: Surely you desire truth in the inner parts.

0:56 SPEAKER_00: You teach me wisdom in the inmost place.

1:00 SPEAKER_00: The movie Shattered Glass is worth viewing as it provides insight into the extreme nature of these pathological liars.

1:07 SPEAKER_00: This true story illustrates how some people are incapable of recognizing their falsehoods and stubbornly cling to their lies at a level comparable to the pathological lie.

1:17 SPEAKER_00: Consequently, one should never anticipate complete success in disproving these fabrications unless the person repents with godly sorrow for years.

1:27 SPEAKER_00: Such individuals are precisely the kind that Seattle's King County and other prosecutors exploit for their own selfish interests.

1:34 SPEAKER_00: As Jesus declared in John 8 44, you belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire.

1:43 SPEAKER_00: He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him.

1:50 SPEAKER_00: When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1:56 SPEAKER_00: How to deal with pathological liars.

2:00 SPEAKER_00: Such liars are only revealed within the community, church, or ministry when such are gathered before the Lord.

2:07 SPEAKER_00: Pathological liars manipulate each person individually, tailoring their deceptions for each specific individual to deceive, control, and take evil aim at their audience of influence.

Internet-Fueled Manipulation

2:20 SPEAKER_00: Thus, when these individuals gather with others they have deceived, it allows for the exposure of the multi-level lies.

2:29 SPEAKER_00: Such individuals thrive on meeting new individuals because these new acquaintances are unaware of the danger.

2:36 SPEAKER_00: You will often see these liars in the public arena, such as marketing, politics, legal occupations, financial advisors, and ministry.

2:47 SPEAKER_00: This allows the pathological liar an unlimited supply of individuals to fool.

2:52 SPEAKER_00: That is, they can feed their sinful lusts to lie on a never-ending pool of fresh victims.

3:00 SPEAKER_00: At Sound Doctrine Church, these liars were presented before the congregation in hopes of leading them to repentance.

3:08 SPEAKER_00: This is the hope and the power of walking in the light.

3:12 SPEAKER_00: See 1 John 1 7.

3:14 SPEAKER_00: Several of these pathological liars were identified at Sound Doctrine Church over the decades, but unfortunately, they resisted and hardened their hearts against repentance.

3:24 SPEAKER_00: Thus, they leave the church with fresh lies, preying on those ignorant of the real situations.

Spiritual Conflict Around Truth

3:31 SPEAKER_00: If you are suffering due to such liars, do not try to confront them individually to expose the lies or to learn the truth on your own.

3:40 SPEAKER_00: As you will see in the movie Shattered Glass, it is very difficult to unseat lies once a person has accepted those falsehoods.

3:50 SPEAKER_00: After all, the person would have to humble themselves and admit they were taken in.

3:55 SPEAKER_00: It is only through the power of God in a communal setting that there is any chance of uncovering the lies.

4:02 SPEAKER_00: Only in this way can each member reveal to the group the lie or lies they were told.

4:07 SPEAKER_00: Proverbs 26-26.

Inner Truth And Psalm 51

4:09 SPEAKER_00: His malice may be concealed by deception, but his wickedness will be exposed in the assembly.

4:16 SPEAKER_00: This is why God warns, in no uncertain terms, that even listening to a false witness may cost a person heaven.

4:23 SPEAKER_00: Listening to such lies, or failing to repent of having listened to these pathological liars, will cost you eternal life.

4:32 SPEAKER_00: Those who are false witnesses and those who listen to them will be destroyed forever.

4:37 SPEAKER_00: So says the living God.

4:40 SPEAKER_00: Proverbs 21, 28.

4:42 SPEAKER_00: A false witness will perish, and whoever listens to him will be destroyed forever.

Trailer Highlights From Shattered Glass

4:48 SPEAKER_00: The Consider Podcast, examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.

4:54 SPEAKER_00: www.consider.info.

Why Community Exposes Liars

5:08 SPEAKER_05: There's 16,800 magazines in this country.

5:14 SPEAKER_05: But only one calls itself the in-flight magazine of Air Force One.

5:18 SPEAKER_05: And that's the thrill of working at the New Republic.

5:22 SPEAKER_04: This kid he hacked his way into the company called Juked Micronics and posted the salary of every Juked employee on Juke's website.

5:30 SPEAKER_04: Saying the big bad bionic boy has been here, baby.

5:37 SPEAKER_04: I want a trip to Disney World.

5:40 SPEAKER_03: It's funny.

5:44 SPEAKER_03: Why didn't you get this?

5:46 SPEAKER_03: I don't know.

5:46 SPEAKER_03: Do you have phone numbers for all your sources on the hack haven't beats?

5:49 SPEAKER_03: Because somebody must do some kind of follow-up story.

5:50 SPEAKER_02: Called all the hackers I know, asking if any had heard of a hacker by the name of Big Bad Bionic Boy.

5:55 SPEAKER_02: Nothing.

5:55 SPEAKER_05: He's made some pretty serious charges.

5:57 SPEAKER_05: This looks very suspicious to me.

5:59 SPEAKER_05: I'm increasingly beginning to believe that I've been duped.

Public Arenas And Fresh Victims

6:01 SPEAKER_00: The new republic's snobbiest rag in the business and gets completely snowed.

6:05 SPEAKER_05: Have you thought about the impact this might have?

6:07 SPEAKER_05: If you fire him, people will leave.

6:09 SPEAKER_05: I go, Chuck, why didn't you back me up?

6:11 SPEAKER_05: He goes, I'm sorry, Steve.

6:12 SPEAKER_05: I gotta protect the magazine.

6:14 SPEAKER_03: There are political considerations.

6:16 SPEAKER_03: The young conservatives piece.

6:17 SPEAKER_03: Is that true?

6:18 SPEAKER_03: This wasn't an isolated incident.

6:19 SPEAKER_03: He ended as fiction after fiction, and we printed them all as facts.

6:23 SPEAKER_03: What you're telling me is impossible.

6:25 SPEAKER_03: If you were a stranger to you, you'd dig and you'd bury him.

6:28 SPEAKER_02: But there is one thing in the story that checks out.

6:30 SPEAKER_02: What's that?

6:31 SPEAKER_02: There does appear to be a state in the union named Nevada.

6:35 SPEAKER_01: Hayden Christensen.

6:37 SPEAKER_04: You're my editor.

6:37 SPEAKER_04: You're supposed to support me.

6:39 SPEAKER_01: Peter Sarsgaard.

6:40 SPEAKER_04: This thing blows.

6:41 SPEAKER_04: There isn't gonna be a magazine anymore.

6:42 SPEAKER_04: I didn't do anything wrong.

6:43 SPEAKER_04: You saw my notes, everything was in there.

6:45 SPEAKER_04: They're gonna have all this too.

6:47 SPEAKER_03: You didn't do anything wrong! I really wish you'd stop saying that.

6:50 SPEAKER_03: Shattered glass.