The Keys / Repent Justice Roberts

Disclaimers And Moral Framing

0:00 SPEAKER_01: The content provided on this podcast, website, and associated materials is for informational and educational purposes only.

0:08 SPEAKER_01: It does not constitute legal, financial, medical, or professional advice of any kind.

0:14 SPEAKER_01: Nothing contained herein is intended as a call to harmful action, a solicitation to rebel, or encouragement to harm others.

0:21 SPEAKER_00: The following lawful, lawless legal codes are crushing the poor.

0:26 SPEAKER_00: No average citizen should have to be a mini-legal scholar just to function in society.

0:32 SPEAKER_00: The hypocrisy of the Supreme Court is astonishing.

0:36 SPEAKER_00: While abusing the word reasonable, they require every citizen to behave and talk unreasonably.

0:43 SPEAKER_00: Time to repent, Chief Judge Roberts.

0:46 SPEAKER_00: Disclaimer, for review purposes only, the following content is not legal advice, but a call for repentance to those who are crushing the rights of the humble in the land.

0:57 SPEAKER_00: Isaiah 315.

0:59 SPEAKER_00: What do you mean by crushing my people and grinding the faces of the poor?

1:05 SPEAKER_00: declares the Lord, the Lord Almighty.

1:10 SPEAKER_00: The Consider Podcast.

The Keys Request Trap

1:25 SPEAKER_02: You're sitting in your car during a traffic stop.

1:27 SPEAKER_02: The police officer has your license and registration.

1:30 SPEAKER_02: Everything seems routine, but then he leans down to your window, stares at you, and says the words that catch you off guard.

1:37 SPEAKER_02: Turn off the engine and hand me your keys.

1:40 SPEAKER_02: Now here's the thing.

1:41 SPEAKER_02: What you say in the next three seconds will determine whether you maintain your constitutional rights or whether you handed over all the legal keys for the cop to search everything you have in your possession and everything in your car.

1:53 SPEAKER_02: And the response most people give, it's the single biggest property rights mistake I've seen people make when it comes to search and seizures on the side of the road.

2:01 SPEAKER_02: But I'm not just gonna show you the mistake.

2:02 SPEAKER_02: I'm going to give you the exact words, phrase by phrase, so that you can keep your keys in your hands and you can keep your rights intact.

2:09 SPEAKER_02: Because by saying the right words, you'll be able to maintain control over your property and your vehicle, and I'm gonna show you the Supreme Court cases that back it up.

2:16 SPEAKER_02: But here's what you may not realize: when a cop asks for your keys, that is not a safety request, and it's certainly not standard procedure.

2:24 SPEAKER_02: That's a property control technique they are specifically trained to use at the academy.

2:28 SPEAKER_02: And let me tell you how this trap works.

2:30 SPEAKER_02: Think about it from the officer's perspective.

2:32 SPEAKER_02: He knows he has you pulled over for a simple traffic violation, but he doesn't know if you're hiding something else.

2:37 SPEAKER_02: Maybe drugs, maybe weapons, or evidence of another crime.

2:40 SPEAKER_02: But the moment he gets the keys out of your hands, your constitutional protections disappear.

2:45 SPEAKER_02: You no longer have control over your vehicle or any of the property inside of it.

2:49 SPEAKER_02: You can't leave, you can't secure your property, and you can't prevent a search.

2:52 SPEAKER_02: You think you were just being cooperative, or maybe you didn't have much of a choice.

2:56 SPEAKER_02: But in reality, you were abling the cop to pull a trick on you in order to control the entire encounter.

3:02 SPEAKER_02: Because here's what's actually happening: the moment you hand your keys over to the officer and say, sure, officer, here are my keys, this is not cooperation.

How Handing Keys Can Backfire

3:11 SPEAKER_02: This is abandonment of property.

3:13 SPEAKER_02: When you sit there while they hold your keys, you become a passenger in your own vehicle.

3:17 SPEAKER_02: When you let them control your ignition, your locks, your ability to leave, you have now transformed a traffic stop into a custodial interrogation.

3:25 SPEAKER_02: You're handing them control on a silver platter and the officer knows it.

3:29 SPEAKER_02: That's exactly why he asked for the keys in the first place.

3:32 SPEAKER_02: Now I need you to put yourself in the place of the police officer because these are routine requests for them.

3:37 SPEAKER_02: They asked for this kind of stuff during traffic stops every day.

3:40 SPEAKER_02: They're not making this request for your benefit, they're asking it in a very nonchalant way to make it seem like a normal safety precaution.

3:48 SPEAKER_02: But the underlying reason is to gain control of your property and limit your options.

3:53 SPEAKER_02: But here's where it gets interesting, because the law is actually on your side and the officer hopes you never figure it out.

3:58 SPEAKER_02: Because here's what most people don't know: you are never required to surrender your keys during a traffic stop.

4:03 SPEAKER_02: The Supreme Court has never ruled that cops have a right to your keys during any type of traffic stop.

What The Courts Actually Allow

4:09 SPEAKER_02: Now it is true that the Supreme Court case of Pennsylvania versus Mims allows cops to get you out of the car for safety reasons, officer safety reasons, but it does not allow them to confiscate your keys.

4:20 SPEAKER_02: And Arizona versus Johnson allows cops to do protective sweeps of your vehicle, but it does not allow for key seizure.

4:27 SPEAKER_02: The circuit courts of appeals, the supreme courts for all the other states have all said the same thing.

4:32 SPEAKER_02: When an officer asks for your keys, it's a request.

4:36 SPEAKER_02: It is not something you have to legally comply with.

4:38 SPEAKER_02: So think about what that means.

4:40 SPEAKER_02: The officer's number one property control move during a traffic stop.

4:44 SPEAKER_02: Hey, can I have your keys?

4:45 SPEAKER_02: Can legally be refused.

4:47 SPEAKER_02: But if you hand them over voluntarily, you have now consented to the officer having control of everything that you own, and you are going to have a hard time withdrawing that consent.

4:57 SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm about to give you the exact words to say to this cop.

5:00 SPEAKER_02: And once you hear them, you'll realize how simple this is.

5:02 SPEAKER_02: But first I'm going to show you something that will make these words 10 times more powerful.

5:07 SPEAKER_02: Remember, an officer always needs probable cause in order to search your vehicle.

5:11 SPEAKER_02: But your actions, that's the easiest evidence they'll ever get.

5:14 SPEAKER_02: That's why everything you choose to do with those keys can work against you.

5:18 SPEAKER_02: If you hand them over voluntarily, now you're cooperating.

5:21 SPEAKER_02: It allows them to hold your keys and spend as much time as they want while they run your license or look for anything else.

5:27 SPEAKER_02: If they can't find anything on you on their database search, they still have your keys, so they can come over to you and start asking you questions and interrogating you, and now you have no way to escape.

5:36 SPEAKER_02: All of it plays directly into the officer's training.

5:39 SPEAKER_02: So how do you respond here?

5:40 SPEAKER_02: Well, first, being rude is never the answer.

5:43 SPEAKER_02: Here's why.

5:44 SPEAKER_02: If you're rude, the cop will claim rude equals hostile.

5:47 SPEAKER_02: So now, if you're being hostile, the officer will claim, uh oh, my officer's safety is at risk here.

5:52 SPEAKER_02: I now have all the justification in the world to get you out of the car.

5:56 SPEAKER_02: And he will claim that you might be hiding a weapon or something.

5:59 SPEAKER_02: So now he needs to do a pat-down search in order to find out what else you might have.

6:03 SPEAKER_02: By being hostile, you're giving the officer everything he needs to escalate the encounter.

6:08 SPEAKER_02: I've seen this literally a million times.

6:10 SPEAKER_02: So you want to give that officer as little as possible so that he's not able to escalate the encounter and write down in his police report that you were acting suspicious and your behavior warranted further investigation.

6:21 SPEAKER_02: So you can't hand over your keys, you don't want to be rude about keeping them, and you don't want to seem like you're hiding anything.

6:27 SPEAKER_02: So what on earth are you supposed to do?

6:29 SPEAKER_02: Well, here are the exact words to say and the specific moves to make to maintain your privacy and your rights.

The Exact Words To Use

6:36 SPEAKER_02: First, if the officer leans in and says, Turn off the engine and give me your keys, you can say, officer, my keys will remain with me during this encounter.

6:44 SPEAKER_02: You say, What's so powerful about that, Jeff?

6:46 SPEAKER_02: Well, let's break it down word for word and show you why the law is on your side.

6:50 SPEAKER_02: Officer, my keys.

6:51 SPEAKER_02: Those are the first three words.

6:53 SPEAKER_02: Here, you're asserting ownership.

6:54 SPEAKER_02: It's your property.

6:56 SPEAKER_02: You have a right to that property.

6:57 SPEAKER_02: You are not turning over this property right that you have to that officer.

7:01 SPEAKER_02: Officer, my keys will remain with me.

7:04 SPEAKER_02: Here, we're making it very clear that you do not consent to that officer reaching in and grabbing your keys or maintaining control of the keys in any particular scenario.

7:13 SPEAKER_02: And finally, officer, my keys will remain with me during this interaction or encounter.

7:18 SPEAKER_02: Those matter because here we're talking about, we're making it real clear we understand the temporary nature of this stop, and that the officer has to have additional probable cause to believe he has a right to seize your vehicle and do anything else moving forward.

7:32 SPEAKER_02: Now, what if the officer pushes back, and you know he will, and I'm gonna tell you exactly what he's gonna do here.

7:36 SPEAKER_02: He'll then tell you, all right, buddy, you're not gonna give me the keys.

7:39 SPEAKER_02: I feel like my officer's safety is at risk.

7:41 SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna need you to step out of the car right now.

7:44 SPEAKER_02: Now, here's what's key.

Pushback Steps Lock And Limit Access

7:45 SPEAKER_02: At this moment, you do need to turn off your car.

7:49 SPEAKER_02: You need to turn it off, you need to then take those keys and put them in your pocket.

7:54 SPEAKER_02: If you got a coat, put it in your coat, zip it.

7:56 SPEAKER_02: Do whatever you can to make it where that officer now is no longer able to get access to those keys.

8:02 SPEAKER_02: And then here's what's critical: as you get out of the car, lock all the doors.

8:06 SPEAKER_02: Make sure all the windows are rolled up and lock all the doors.

8:09 SPEAKER_02: So now that officer is unable to get back into the vehicle.

8:13 SPEAKER_02: And then if the officer looks back at you and says, Okay, buddy, smart mouth, you're gonna lock the car, you're not gonna let me have access, and you're not gonna give me your keys.

8:21 SPEAKER_02: I'm going to need to get access to those keys because I'm concerned for my officer's safety.

8:26 SPEAKER_02: That's when you can look back at the officer and say, officer, I understand your safety concerns, but you're going to need either separate probable cause or a warrant in order to gain access to these keys.

8:36 SPEAKER_02: And that is completely legally accurate because the officer's safety concerns are separate and apart from your property rights when it comes to your keys.

8:44 SPEAKER_02: And you say, Jeff, is it really that important for me to lock the car's doors and take the keys with me when I get out of the car?

8:49 SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, because this is a trick prosecutors love to use if this ends up somehow going to court.

8:55 SPEAKER_02: They will claim, by you leaving the keys inside the car and leaving the doors unlocked, that you may have impliedly consented to allow these cops to do whatever search they wanted inside your vehicle.

Silence Script And Next Video

9:05 SPEAKER_02: And if the cops escalate the situation and now they try to detain you or arrest you, remember the words you always should use.

9:11 SPEAKER_02: Officer, I exercise my right to remain silent.

9:14 SPEAKER_02: I do not consent to searches of anything, myself or my vehicle, and I will not answer any further questions unless my attorney is present.

9:22 SPEAKER_02: But what if cops want to take it to the next level?

9:24 SPEAKER_02: And now they look at you and say, you know what?

9:26 SPEAKER_02: I think you might be armed and dangerous.

9:28 SPEAKER_02: Time for me to pat you down.

9:30 SPEAKER_02: Check out this next video where I break down exactly what to say to cops when they want to pat you down and the exact legal language to use to stop them dead in their tracks.

9:39 SPEAKER_02: See you over there.