Power Walk in the Light : Prosecutor Bible Study : Fellowship Part 2

Introduction to the Conspiracy

0:02 Timothy: we're still continuing the discussion and considering what it is to walk in the light, because prosecutor jason simmons wanted to know what it was all about.

0:11 Jacob: But first let's talk about a conspiracy among king county prosecutors welcome to the consider podcast, where we examine today's wisdom folly, and More information can be found at wwwconsiderinfo.

0:27 Jacob: Now here are your hosts, timothy and Jacob.

0:36 Timothy: How's it going, jacob?

0:37 Timothy: It's going good.

0:38 Timothy: I ask you that every time, but I sincerely ask the question time, but I sincerely ask the question.

0:43 Timothy: Let's cruise on over to Jeremiah, chapter 18, verse 18, because we want to talk about and reveal a conspiracy among King County prosecutors, certainly among Jason Simmons.

1:01 Timothy: I mean, a man that's willing to ignore the facts of reality is certainly not going to accept the truth in any form or fashion.

1:05 Timothy: I mean Jason Simmons and King County prosecutors.

1:07 Timothy: They were more than willing, in fact very eager, to twist turn facts of reality.

1:12 Timothy: I mean, it was just not a trial of just lies, but it was really taking like who are you talking about?

1:20 Timothy: What church are you discussing here?

1:21 Timothy: They built a whole church that I can relate to didn't exist and yet somehow they just kind of formed that lie and went on.

1:30 Timothy: Well, there's a conspiracy, and let's read that, jacob.

1:35 Timothy: Go ahead and read Jeremiah 18, 18, because it's an old, old, old conspiracy Jeremiah, chapter 18,.

1:45 Speaker 3: Old conspiracy, jeremiah, chapter 18, verse 18.

1:46 Speaker 3: They said Come, let's make plans against Jeremiah, for the teaching of the law by the priest will not be lost, nor will counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophets.

The Role of Prosecutor Jason Simmons

2:01 Speaker 3: So come, let's attack him with our tongues and pay no attention to anything he says.

2:07 Timothy: It is a conspiracy to pay no attention to anything.

2:11 Timothy: I say, even for over decades, I mean people that have persecuted and opposed this message.

2:18 Timothy: They'll have their websites for their discussions or, privately, they'll go to someone and someone and I've heard this over the years and they always say, well, don't go talk to him, don't go by the website, don't listen to what he has to say.

2:32 Timothy: That's the number one goal, because then they can frame all the lies they want.

2:36 Timothy: They're never confronted by the truth.

2:38 Timothy: And of course they can say, well, I can answer the questions or I could confuse people.

2:42 Timothy: Of course I can answer the questions.

2:44 Timothy: If you're going to lie, you have to do it in the darkness, so you never come out of the light to do it.

2:48 Timothy: But right now, king County, the prosecutors, jason Sims, you know we, jacob, have we not demolished every single lie and pretense to this prosecution on every level?

3:02 Timothy: Yes, every level.

3:04 Timothy: We've left nothing standing.

3:05 Timothy: You look at Detective Grant McCall.

3:07 Timothy: We've gone through his interview who he is, what his conduct is, how he behaves.

3:12 Timothy: Everything about the man and everything about this situation proves that King County prosecutors grabbed onto a lie that they made up and ran with and they just refused to listen to the truth.

3:25 Timothy: It's a conspiracy, really, to just pay no attention to anything.

3:28 Timothy: I mean, think about it, the things that McCall did, or, behind the scenes, the hate crime.

3:33 Timothy: What'd they do?

3:34 Timothy: They just ignored it.

3:34 Timothy: It's not like they tried to refute it or anything else.

3:38 Timothy: They just ignored it or said it's no big deal, right, correct.

3:41 Timothy: So they said in Jeremiah 18, 18,.

3:44 Timothy: Come, let us make plans against Jeremiah.

3:46 Timothy: Well, let me tell you something.

3:48 Timothy: Jeremiah pretty much fits this situation.

3:50 Timothy: He was kind of a lone preacher out there.

3:52 Timothy: He wasn't very popular.

3:53 Timothy: Everybody else was saying something different.

3:56 Timothy: For the teaching of the law by the priest will not be lost, nor will counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophets.

4:04 Timothy: You're puffing themselves up.

4:05 Timothy: This is who we are.

4:06 Timothy: We have wisdom, we have knowledge, we have Bible teachers, we have people that are experts.

4:12 Timothy: These are the religious leaders of the time.

4:15 Timothy: None of our wisdom will be lost.

4:18 Timothy: Don't pay any attention to Jeremiah.

4:19 Timothy: At the same time, they're not paying attention to him.

4:22 Timothy: But what are they also doing?

4:23 Timothy: Jacob Attacking him, right, and it says so, come, let us attack him with our tongues and pay no attention to anything he says.

4:33 Timothy: So while all the slander brews and while the lies are put out there.

4:36 Timothy: While it's all pushed forward, they just keep lying, lying, lying, lying, and it just builds one upon another.

4:42 Timothy: So any answer that's given is is not listened to and other people told not to listen to it.

4:48 Timothy: And certainly king county prosecutors by now have no interest in discovering the truth because it would prove just how guilty they are.

4:57 Timothy: Got a sub question for you, jacob.

4:58 Timothy: You know we've.

4:59 Timothy: It's really been me, I think, running on the assumption that prosecutor simmons, the prosecutors, didn't read any of the books or the tracks or materials.

5:08 Timothy: Right?

5:08 Timothy: Is it possible that I'm really wrong?

5:12 Timothy: They actually did look at those things and actually did read through those things, or do you think it's more likely they didn't?

5:18 Timothy: I mean, is it in keeping with paying no attention?

5:20 Timothy: Or did they actually look at the materials, read the books and just flat out decided they hated what they were reading, that it was really there?

5:30 Timothy: Like the spirit of Cain, they hate anybody else who's righteous, and so that's why they struck.

5:35 Timothy: I wonder which one it is, or if it's a mixture.

5:37 Timothy: Any ideas?

5:38 Speaker 3: Um, I'm going to still go with.

5:40 Speaker 3: They didn't read anything.

5:41 Speaker 3: They just listened.

5:43 Speaker 3: Whatever they were told by liars, they believed and went with it.

5:50 Speaker 3: I don't think they read anything.

5:51 Speaker 3: I don't think they read anything at all.

5:52 Speaker 3: If they did, if Jason Simmons is going to sit there and lie and twist words and make things up, all he ever really lied and twisted and made things up about was you know the, the, the people that were on the stand, or if they actually read your books or any materials, I think they would have twisted things that you said in there.

6:13 Timothy: I would have thought so you could have done a better job.

6:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yeah, like if you're, if you're going to, if we're going to twist things and whatnot.

6:20 Speaker 3: Twist things that, yeah, I know.

6:27 Timothy: So, but they don't.

6:27 Timothy: And of course, the flip side is the materials are explaining in very much in detail.

6:30 Timothy: So you'd have a difficult time actually twisting, because you could quote something in a book or a sermon but it's going to come balanced out all the way through as you look in detail.

6:38 Timothy: So it would have been a little bit hard to do.

6:39 Timothy: Plus, they're lazy.

6:41 Timothy: Yeah, basic prosecutors are just a lazy.

6:43 Timothy: I mean, how hard is it to get up there and play satan?

6:45 Timothy: Um, you know, and everybody else has kind of done the work for whatever evidence, whatever they consider evidence anymore.

6:51 Timothy: Of course, in this case you don't have to do any work, you just kind of show up and start mouthing off evil suspicions.

6:56 Timothy: Another question too, because obviously prosecutor simmons he asked the question.

7:02 Timothy: Let me kind of read the quote to remind people quote, prosecutor Simmons.

7:05 Timothy: And how much of your and he always never talks in complete sentences.

7:10 Timothy: It's part of the game.

7:11 Timothy: As a result of your understanding, of your involvement how much of your life were you to tell, to talk about?

7:17 Timothy: And the false witness answered well, we were encouraged to walk in the light.

7:22 Timothy: That means you tell any and everything that you do, end, quote.

7:26 Timothy: So that's what we're talking about is walking in the light.

7:30 Timothy: So Mr Simmons wanted to know, and King County prosecutors wanted to know, and Judge Lori K Smith wanted to know Wow, okay, that's a loose term wanted to know.

7:38 Timothy: They asked the question right, how many sermons building or podcasts building up to this point have we had to build on in order to provide this answer to what it means to walk in the light?

7:50 Timothy: Well, there's been a lot of podcasts, correct?

7:54 Timothy: Do you think Judge Lori K Smith or any prosecutor would actually allow me the time to explain to a jury what walking in the light means?

8:05 Timothy: No, of course not Now.

8:07 Timothy: I'd have loved it.

8:08 Timothy: They'd you know, they'd have come in and put me on the stand right.

8:11 Timothy: Yeah, I guarantee you, out in the hallway, out ahead Bibles for everybody, books for everybody, tracks for everybody, outlines for everybody.

8:20 Timothy: You want an explanation?

8:21 Timothy: Well, we're going to be here for the next 90 days as I explain the deep things of God.

8:26 Timothy: These aren't minor things, this isn't like soundbite.

8:29 Timothy: Well, tell us what walking the light is, and then I'm supposed to do, in three or four sentences, explain the power of God and how this purifies and how it makes people holy, at least for those who want it Really so.

8:41 Timothy: You think Judge Laurie K Smith would allow me want it really so?

8:46 Timothy: You think judge laurie k smith would allow me?

8:48 Timothy: Let's, let's go crazy a day to explain this.

8:49 Timothy: No, um, half a day no, before lunch you'd have like five minutes five minutes and I would be lucky to complete a sentence in those five minutes without prosecutor, seems objection.

9:01 Timothy: Your honor and this objection.

9:04 Timothy: So he knows he's interest.

9:06 Timothy: He's entering questions into a courtroom for which he doesn't care about the answer.

9:11 Timothy: He's doing the shock value well, what is walking in the light?

9:14 Timothy: And then, of course, the false witness gets to throw out one little blurb about well, you talk about any and everything that you want.

9:22 Timothy: You know what your life?

9:23 Timothy: We discussed that last time.

9:24 Timothy: As I said again, and we're kind of concluding here the goal was to keep people from never talking to me or because then the lies would be exposed.

9:33 Timothy: Same thing with King County.

9:34 Timothy: They wanted to keep everything in the dark.

9:37 Timothy: All right, let's kind of move forward here and talk about walking in the light, prosecutor Simmons, as we do this Bible study together and I hope we're not moving too fast, because this is actually moving pretty quick, even though it's quite a few podcasts it's only a couple of podcasts here on Walking in the Light and I'm not going to be able to cover every aspect and there's really no time for you to pray, to meditate, to weep, to cry before God, to ask God for wisdom, because all of this is about having a relationship with God and that's where the wisdom comes from.

10:08 Timothy: When you ask somebody well, what was your relationship like.

10:13 Timothy: Well, the relationship as we talked before was only between you and God.

10:16 Timothy: So let me hone in.

10:18 Timothy: Let me stop here now.

10:19 Timothy: Let's focus in clearly it.

10:28 Timothy: Let's focus in clearly.

10:29 Timothy: Walking in the light is not something a church does.

10:30 Timothy: Walking in the light is not a matter of four principles of godly behavior that we set out to do under our own effort.

10:37 Timothy: That's not what walking in the light is.

10:40 Timothy: This is not a matter of Tim Williams arranging and setting up a atmosphere structure and then call it walking in the light.

10:50 Timothy: Any any comment on that, jacob?

10:54 Timothy: Am I making sense?

10:55 Timothy: Trying to explain to people?

10:56 Timothy: This isn't a set of rules, guidelines, principles, philosophy.

Jeremiah 18:18 and the Call for Transparency

11:00 Timothy: This is anything that we do to ourselves Correct, and only before you continue.

11:08 Speaker 3: Obviously, as we talked about last time, the person is it's a complete lie.

11:13 Speaker 3: The false witnesses answer that oh, it's just, you know, it's just there.

11:18 Speaker 3: First off, they're wrong even that, it's not that we tell everything that you do and then, second of all, it's just void, because they're making it sound like some law or rule, and that's not it as well.

11:28 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's all a lie and then go ahead.

11:32 Timothy: Correct To make our own principles or rules, and that's what most of the church does.

11:38 Timothy: And I can understand why a lot of people think that way, because most churches talk about principles of godliness or foundational concept of what it means to be godly.

11:47 Timothy: There wasn't any of that at Sound Doctrine Church, nor is there any of that in my life.

11:51 Timothy: There is only picking up my cross to follow Jesus Christ.

11:55 Timothy: He works out, it's his power and that's what we're going to get to.

11:58 Timothy: Go to 1 Corinthians 4.20, and this really needs to kind of sink in when we talk about walking in the light.

12:05 Timothy: This isn't like, jacob, you and I decide to walk in the light, so we go into a dark room that has no lights and then we turn to each other and say, okay, we're going to walk in the light, jacob.

12:15 Timothy: What would happen if we did that?

12:18 Timothy: It's still dark, it's still totally dark.

12:22 Timothy: In fact, it's even more dark.

12:23 Timothy: Suppose we walk in the room and let's call this room a church, right and there's no lights on.

12:28 Timothy: It's all dark.

12:29 Timothy: And I say, jacob, let's walk in the light.

12:32 Timothy: And you agree, go ahead and agree, jacob.

12:34 Timothy: I agree, okay.

12:35 Timothy: So all right, let's start walking in the light.

12:40 Timothy: Do the lights come on?

12:41 Timothy: No, no, of course not, jacob.

12:44 Timothy: Let's pray to God to walk in the light.

12:47 Timothy: So we pray together and we walk in the light.

12:49 Timothy: Have the lights come on yet?

12:50 Timothy: No, no, this isn't anything that we can produce, mr Simmons.

12:55 Timothy: This isn't anything that I can arrange.

12:58 Timothy: Nobody was assigned anybody to fellowship.

13:00 Timothy: God would arrange those things as he sees fit.

13:04 Timothy: But let's get to the point of 1 Corinthians 4.20, for the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk, but a power.

13:14 Timothy: Walking in light is not a matter of talk.

13:18 Timothy: It's not even a matter of reporting everything that you did every day.

13:23 Timothy: That's not what the kingdom of God is about.

13:25 Timothy: We are talking about real, tangible power here.

13:29 Timothy: Now, if we go into our church building and our hearts are right and we're picking up our cross, we're hating our own life, we're denying ourself, we're being led by the Holy Spirit.

13:40 Timothy: He then will come and produce his light, and so we can walk in that light, but he has to produce it first.

13:50 Timothy: Anything else is just darkness and darkness.

13:52 Timothy: I mean, how many churches can come together and say, jacob, you and I are the false church?

13:56 Timothy: We come together and say, oh well, let's walk in light.

13:58 Timothy: Walk in the light and nothing really changes.

14:00 Timothy: There's no light from his power.

14:01 Timothy: It's still dark, but we say now we're walking in the light.

14:04 Timothy: Praise God, hallelujah, are we actually walking in the light?

14:09 Speaker 3: No, it's just like the Catholic church you go to confessional and funny enough.

14:13 Speaker 3: I think it's usually like a dark little booth.

14:15 Speaker 3: But the bottom line is you can go and confess to somebody, you can talk to somebody, you can say something that you did was bad, but that doesn't mean you're walking in the light.

14:28 Timothy: In fact, you wind up with double darkness, Correct?

14:30 Timothy: Because if you're in a dark room and God hasn't brought his light by his power and you think he's bringing in that light and you think it's there, you're walking in a double set of darkness.

14:37 Timothy: At that point, yeah, walking in the light, prosecutor Simmons, is not a concept.

14:45 Timothy: It is the powerful blood of Jesus actually doing the work, and you can't force him to do it, you can't move it along to make it happen any faster, you can't control what it's going to do.

14:58 Timothy: Granted, you see a lot of churches.

15:01 Timothy: Their blood is like full of leukemia and cancer and that's why the churches crumble and that's why there's no holiness.

15:06 Timothy: Let's go to 1 John 1, verse 7.

15:10 Timothy: But if we walk in the light and we talked about this last time as he is in the light, it has to be his light.

15:20 Timothy: I'm not going to repound on that, because we did that in the last podcast.

15:22 Timothy: It says we have fellowship with one another.

15:24 Timothy: It's very simple, jacob and I agree.

15:24 Timothy: We're going to repound on that, because we did that in the last podcast.

15:25 Timothy: It says we have fellowship with one another.

15:25 Timothy: It's very simple, jacob and I agree.

15:28 Timothy: We're going to seek the living God and he does that before God and I do it before God individually, just because we would agree with each other that that's what we're going to do.

15:35 Timothy: It's not going to do anything.

15:36 Timothy: We each have to get into the prayer closet, we each have to surrender our life.

15:41 Timothy: We each have to wrestle before God one on one, and then we come together and fellowship and he brings that light.

15:49 Timothy: And in that relationship that Jacob and I have with one another, we purify each other as he works it.

15:55 Timothy: We see things as he works it.

15:57 Timothy: We have healing as he works it.

16:00 Timothy: We might go through time periods when it doesn't feel like you're being healed much, jacob.

16:04 Timothy: Can you remember, especially early on, as you began to walk in the light and follow Jesus Christ?

16:09 Timothy: Was it easier or harder?

16:13 Speaker 3: um, I'm reminded of the keith green song, um, uh now I'm fumbling for the words uh where he talks.

16:21 Speaker 3: Actually it's a song of kind of repentance and he talks about that.

16:24 Speaker 3: He uh heard her, you know, I heard your voice every day.

16:27 Speaker 3: So, um, I don't quite know where you were going.

16:31 Speaker 3: But the question is, is it easier or harder?

16:33 Speaker 3: It's, it's there's, it's ups.

16:35 Speaker 3: I mean, there's times.

16:37 Speaker 3: Whenever you hear the voice of God, it seems easy, even if it's painful, even if the voice is telling you you're wrong and you should repent of this.

16:45 Speaker 3: That's where the light comes in, that's where the joy can come from.

16:49 Speaker 3: You have to suffer before there's joy.

16:50 Speaker 3: So I mean it's ups and downs In the beginning.

16:55 Speaker 3: Is it hard?

16:56 Speaker 3: Yes, if you're hearing the voice of God, does that make it easier?

17:00 Speaker 3: Yes, and that's it's true for me today.

17:05 Timothy: I think part of the and this part of it is you grew up walking in the light.

17:11 Timothy: You grew up in the teachings and the word of God that knew you're going to have to suffer to also have the joy at the same time.

17:17 Timothy: So you expect it, somebody coming in cold turkey loaded up with sin.

17:22 Timothy: It may be very, very difficult.

17:24 Timothy: It was for me.

17:25 Timothy: I mean, I didn't have anybody teaching me this and I had to go straight to God to experience it.

17:30 Timothy: And the first, oh man, decades of my life were massive.

17:35 Timothy: God was hammering hard.

17:38 Timothy: At least I felt that way.

17:39 Timothy: You know what I'm saying.

17:41 Timothy: It's like there was a lot of breaking that had to be done and it was a miserable time.

17:48 Timothy: I mean, being crucified is not a pleasurable experience.

17:52 Timothy: It says for the joy set before him, jesus endured the cross.

17:54 Timothy: It says for the joy set before him, jesus endured the cross.

17:56 Timothy: In the same way, I endured all the things God was putting me through and showing me my heart and my spirit and in my life.

18:03 Timothy: There's a whole dynamic I'm not going to go into.

18:06 Timothy: Nobody be interested anyway.

18:07 Timothy: I'm just telling you that, yes, the pain was worth it, but there was pain.

18:24 Timothy: Mm-hmm, jacob, can you think of any slight areas where prosecutor simmons may have caught a glimpse of walking light?

18:27 Timothy: Is and it's not something that you know we put on or we did that that he could say if he were being a little bit honest, yeah, that was kind of out of the norm.

18:34 Timothy: Can you think of anything?

18:35 Speaker 3: wait that.

18:35 Speaker 3: What do you mean?

18:36 Speaker 3: It's a loaded question.

18:38 Speaker 3: He would.

18:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was this?

18:40 Speaker 3: If he.

18:41 Speaker 3: Oh wait, aren't you pretty?

18:47 Timothy: much saying deep down inside, would he ever admit that he was wrong?

18:48 Timothy: Well, no, it's a whole different concept.

18:50 Timothy: I'll tell you what you do Play the dog and pony show.

18:53 Timothy: And let's talk about one of prosecutor simmons experiences with god doing walking in the light.

19:03 Speaker 4: Jury selection october 2006, washington state, seattle, king county prosecutors, courtroom 4g.

19:13 Speaker 4: Prosecutor paul sewell, have you been selected for jury duty in the past?

19:18 Speaker 4: Then you have been through this dog and pony show before.

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19:32 Timothy: Jacob.

19:32 Timothy: We interviewed the lady that actually heard those words and was in the courtroom, so I'm not going to go into a lot of detail with that.

19:39 Timothy: But was that something that we arranged?

19:42 Timothy: No, did we say?

19:45 Timothy: It's Jan, that's her name.

19:47 Timothy: If I said, jan, you got jury duty coming up.

19:49 Timothy: Oh, you know, go to jury duty and when you get there, do this, that and the other thing, right, correct.

19:55 Timothy: No, that didn't happen.

19:57 Timothy: Well, let's just think about the odds, all the odds of jury duty and we're talking for the last several years, run through the gam of somebody doing the math.

The Meaning of Walking in the Light

20:06 Timothy: What were the odds of Jan getting a jury summons and a jury call to go in and goes in and winds up hearing from a King County prosecutor that jury duty for the prosecutors in the state of Washington is nothing but a dog and pony show, because they control it, because they can manipulate it.

20:29 Timothy: To them it is just one big joke.

20:32 Timothy: Of course he's saying they're all chumps, but that's beside the point.

20:35 Timothy: What were the odds of her actually showing up at that time to hear him say that are very slim, very slim.

20:43 Timothy: I I would put this other people wouldn't.

20:46 Timothy: I put this in the miraculous territory.

20:48 Timothy: This is nothing that could be arranged or planned there.

20:51 Timothy: Even if she showed up for jury duty and she's sitting there, what are the odds of somebody mouthing off a King County prosecutor saying it's a dog and pony show?

21:04 Speaker 3: The only other thing we don't know which, by the way, I still think statistically the odds are extremely low is well, how often does the guy say that?

21:11 Speaker 3: Does he say that?

21:12 Speaker 3: Actually a lot of the times, we don't know If this is the normal and he's like oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, it's a dog and pony show folks.

21:18 Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's his standard line.

21:20 Timothy: I'm just giving you the flip side.

21:21 Timothy: That's a possibility.

21:22 Timothy: I thought about that.

21:24 Speaker 3: Uh, that was standard operating procedure, yeah he says this all the time because it's a flippant deal and you know.

21:29 Speaker 3: But the odds are still very, very oh very low.

21:32 Speaker 3: Because even if this was paul seaw's standard line we all know it's in their hearts all the prosecutors but even if that was, you know, and everybody's got these catchphrases, so statistically, even if that was his catchphrase, but the statistical odds that she was in the courtroom with him instead of some other prosecutor are still very small.

21:52 Timothy: I don't think he did.

21:52 Timothy: I think it was totally out of the fluke.

21:54 Timothy: I'll tell you why.

21:54 Timothy: The defense attorney objected and I don't think he did.

21:58 Timothy: I think it was totally out of the fluke.

21:59 Timothy: I'll tell you why.

21:59 Timothy: The defense attorney objected and of course the judge said like yeah, don't be such a bad boy and say that stuff, I think he would not have gotten by with it.

22:09 Timothy: Oh, I see, because if it was his common catchphrase and if he had been told, by a judge before not to say it then yeah, he wouldn't continue to have said it before.

22:14 Timothy: Other defense attorneys would have shut that down long ago.

22:16 Speaker 3: And he would have moved on to some other catchphrase.

22:17 Timothy: That defense attorney would have known about it and just slammed him big time, and the judges aren't going to want you to admit that truth in there.

22:25 Timothy: So I don't think so.

22:26 Timothy: I think this actually was the light of God, prosecutor Simmons, causing him to say what was in his heart and what the truth is.

22:33 Timothy: Now it gets really deeper than that heart and what the truth is.

22:36 Timothy: Now it gets really deeper than that.

22:37 Timothy: And I'm trying to I'm really not trying to use this to shame you, although we've kind of already done that, because that's the truth of the situation.

22:43 Timothy: What I'm showing you is there was no trying, and yet God somehow arranged this situation and you got a really small taste of walking light.

22:52 Timothy: Because let me tell you something else, in this particular trial, jacob, it was highly unusual.

23:01 Speaker 3: There were 30 police officers that were after the defendant.

23:06 Speaker 3: You're talking with this Paul Seawill case, correct, right?

23:08 Timothy: The Paul Seawill case, the same case.

23:09 Timothy: So now not only do we have walking light in this kind of way out scenario and odds, but then there's 30 police officers that were after this particular trial to find this particular defendant guilty, because they've been after him for a long time because of what she said and did.

23:26 Timothy: The whole trial got all messed up because the jurors actually then became thinking jurors.

23:30 Timothy: I can assure you that these 30 police officers heard about jan's crying and telling the truth in the courtroom and they talked to about it with their police chiefs and other people.

23:42 Timothy: So you're seeing here the light makes how many people accountable the judge in the courtroom, paul Sewell in the courtroom, the defendants in the courtroom, all the jurors in the courtroom, everybody that worked there in the courtroom.

23:55 Timothy: Do you not think that was talked about, jacob?

23:57 Speaker 3: Yes.

23:59 Timothy: Because I don't know.

24:00 Timothy: Well, thankfully it doesn't happen here in King County.

24:03 Timothy: Of course, jan refuted that with the fact she named Prosecutor Simmons with the whole case and everybody just got silent and moved on.

24:10 Timothy: So you have, on just the surface, you have these 30 police officers, these people, all these jurors, all these foundations, and what are they hearing?

24:19 Timothy: They're hearing the truth of the situation, correct.

24:22 Timothy: How many did anything about it, jacob?

24:25 Timothy: Uh, none, none.

24:29 Timothy: You see, simmons, the light reveals the heart.

24:32 Timothy: All your little pretenses that you prosecutors have, oh, we we're.

24:36 Timothy: You know, we're after justice and we want to keep the community safe.

24:40 Timothy: And all these 30 police officers and their friends and their wives and the people that were touched by this case and how this case got all convoluted and, by the way, they tried to hide what happened in this particular case.

24:50 Timothy: We had to really dig to get the information.

24:52 Timothy: Think of all the different, the kids that listen to the police officer that comes home.

24:56 Timothy: These 30 people, think about, go down the line.

24:58 Timothy: How many people were exposed to the truth of what happened to Sound Doctrine Church and Malcolm Frazier and the hate crime and Detective McCall, and did not do a single thing.

25:12 Timothy: You see, mr Simmons, that is the light of God revealing the heart in people's lives, and this is in your courtroom, this is in your home territory, this isn't even in a church where everybody really is trying to pursue the holiness and the righteousness of God.

25:33 Timothy: Again, I want to say it again Think of all the bailiffs, the potential jurors, the police officers, their departments, their family, all the people.

25:40 Timothy: Think of all the people that knew the criminal and I'm going to say criminal, the defendant on the stand, and he went out and told other people, don't you think?

25:47 Timothy: Don't you think he told people in the jail?

25:50 Timothy: They're more likely to do something.

25:54 Timothy: My point is they got a taste of.

25:56 Timothy: Well, maybe there is that somewhere along the God might be able to reach them, because it's usually the prisoners who come to Jesus Christ and not the prosecutors, not the police.

26:04 Timothy: When's the last time you heard of a judge that came to Jesus Christ?

26:07 Timothy: It just doesn't happen.

26:10 Timothy: Did I make this clear that, mr Simmons?

26:13 Timothy: And this is just one example.

26:14 Timothy: I've got others, but I'm not going to share them.

26:23 Timothy: On radio, it's like there, or what I come up with generation of radio.

26:25 Timothy: Uh, any comments on that?

26:26 Timothy: Because now I want to play a quick definition and it's always as quick as I can be, um, of what walking the light is.

26:30 Timothy: Anything you want to say on any of this so far, jacob?

26:32 Timothy: No right, let's do a quick definition, because I know how you need to find what walking in the light is, and as if I can define the power of God Seriously, and it depends where you're at.

26:49 Timothy: Can you imagine if I go to a physicist and I say describe for me light.

26:53 Timothy: What am I going to get?

26:54 Timothy: Jacob, a really long answer.

26:57 Timothy: Long answered quantum physics, light does this.

27:02 Timothy: Light bends there.

27:03 Timothy: Light changes time.

27:04 Timothy: I like listening, you know, to those short clips on YouTube.

27:07 Timothy: Up to a point, Light's a very fascinating because God is light.

27:11 Timothy: So there's a lot of wisdom and joy really in understanding what light is.

27:15 Timothy: I wish we had time to get into that, but we don't, we're moving forward.

27:18 Timothy: If I go to a child and go well, what's light?

27:22 Timothy: What do you think they would say, jacob?

27:26 Speaker 3: My current two-year-old will probably point at a light bulb or whatever light fixture is on in the room.

27:32 Timothy: Well, you know, the one definition of a person I would ask that I would really enjoy probably listening to is an artist.

27:39 Timothy: I'd say tell me what's light, and they probably could describe the beauty, the majesty, the variance of it all, the light that we can even see, let alone that we can't see.

27:53 Timothy: The light reflected in paintings, in creations, in works.

27:59 Timothy: Somebody does pottery and they put it in the light to show it, or produces a fantastic painting.

28:06 Timothy: Those are the definitions that matter.

28:08 Timothy: So I'm going to provide this quick definition, but I detest it.

28:14 Timothy: I really do.

28:14 Timothy: I did it for your sake so that you have a frame of reference to get started.

28:19 Timothy: But we're talking God's light, walking in warmth, walking in a revealing light.

28:26 Timothy: It's a holy light.

28:29 Timothy: It's a light that Moses had to take his shoes off when he was in God's presence.

28:33 Timothy: It's a light like John fell down as dead when God revealed himself.

28:38 Timothy: We're talking something very holy, very powerful and with that in mind, let's play this very crude definition.

28:46 Timothy: Go ahead, jacob.

28:48 Jacob: The following is a basic definition of what it means to walk in the light.

28:52 Jacob: Every aspect of this definition is based solidly upon scripture and experience.

28:58 Jacob: Prosecutor Jason Simmons, along with five other prosecutors, had been tasked with dismantling Sound Doctrine Church and destroying the reputation of Timothy Williams.

29:08 Jacob: Sound Doctrine Church was ultimately destroyed in the city of Enumclaw, washington State, because of Prosecutor Jason Simmons and Judge Lori K Smith, just to namea few guilty officials.

29:19 Jacob: Evidence can be found at wwwconsiderinfo.

29:24 Jacob: Judge Lori K Smith and the prosecutors imposed unjust methods on a falsely accused member of the church who was being used as an excuse to attack Sound Doctrine Church and Pastor Timothy Williams.

29:35 Jacob: The courtroom was filled with evil suspicions, slander and lies as Mr Simmons prosecuted disciples of Jesus by setting up a false witness to lie about what it means to walk in the light.

29:47 Jacob: The following is a very basic definition of what it means to walk in the light.

29:52 Jacob: For further details, visit wwwconsiderinfo or listen to the Consider podcast.

30:00 Jacob: Walking in the light is akin to stepping into a well-lit room that reveals thoughts, life, actions and the heart of individuals, a light so powerful that only honest disciples of Jesus will learn to enjoy.

30:12 Jacob: This light cannot be generated through Christian methods, rules or principles.

30:16 Jacob: This light cannot be generated through Christian methods, rules or principles.

30:18 Jacob: It is God's light, and only His powerful presence can penetrate the lives and hearts of church members or two disciples on the narrow road who have agreed to walk in the light.

30:27 Jacob: Walking in the light represents the first steps toward heaven, ultimately leading to God's eternal light.

30:33 Jacob: Where lies wickedness and anything impure has no place.

30:36 Jacob: Those unwilling to begin the first steps to walk in the light will not be permitted to enjoy the light of God's presence in heaven.

30:45 Jacob: In a church context, walking in the light means entering a spiritual place where everything in a person's life and heart can be revealed at God's appointed time and by His power.

30:54 Jacob: Be warned and sit down to count the cost before attempting to walk in the light.

30:58 Jacob: For once, someone has stepped into His light.

31:01 Jacob: No one can hide from it or control its powerful workings.

31:05 Jacob: As a disciple is crucified with Christ, the sense of weakness and hope of resurrection fills the soul with what the light will produce.

31:13 Jacob: This light has both the sufferings and the joys of Jesus flowing through its penetrating beams of abundant life.

31:20 Jacob: Those who no longer desire to walk in the light can choose never to attend the church in the first place, or put down their cross and stop following Jesus, or leave such a church filled with God's light, as John the Apostle wrote 1 John 2.19,.

31:36 Jacob: They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us, for if they had belonged to us they would have remained with us, but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

31:48 Jacob: Walking in the light is where God has chosen to activate the blood of Jesus.

31:51 Jacob: The blood of Jesus reveals sin and brings the healing of the new life to those humbled by God's love.

31:57 Jacob: This is why the Apostle John wrote If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

32:07 Jacob: Anyone who professes to be a Christian yet does not walk in God's powerful light does not honestly belong to Jesus, is not saved and will not be with Him in paradise after death.

32:19 Jacob: Let us conclude this by reading from the book of 1 John.

32:23 Jacob: 1 John 1, 5-9.

32:25 Jacob: This is the message we have heard from Him and proclaim to you God is light.

32:30 Jacob: There is no darkness at all.

32:32 Jacob: If we claim to have fellowship with Him yet walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

32:39 Jacob: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

32:49 Jacob: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

32:55 Jacob: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness if we confess our sins.

33:17 Timothy: In his light, he is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to work his righteousness.

33:25 Timothy: See, mr Simmons, again on leadership.

33:27 Timothy: We're all in the same place.

33:29 Timothy: We're all sinners, we all need the light.

33:32 Timothy: We're all in a low position Doesn't mean leaders don't have authority and power for doing good, but it comes from this kind of humility, something certainly King County prosecutors know nothing about.

33:46 Timothy: Let's go to Hebrews, chapter 4, verse 12, jacob, because we're going to talk about that.

33:50 Timothy: This is a matter of power, not talk.

33:54 Timothy: You see, in King County courts the power comes from the gun, comes from the jail, comes from the laws, it comes from the fines, it comes from taking your children away from you, from taking your freedom, from destroying your life.

34:06 Timothy: That's all that King County prosecutors are about, nothing else.

34:10 Timothy: There is no healing, there is no life, there is nothing of any good that they actually produce.

34:16 Timothy: It's all about destruction and punishment.

34:20 Timothy: It's all outward, it's all external.

34:23 Timothy: That's why so very, very few prisoners ever change or become free.

34:31 Timothy: Hebrews 4.12,.

34:32 Timothy: For the word of God.

34:33 Timothy: That's what we're talking about here, mr Simmons, not the word of God on TBN and not the word of God on TV and CBN, whatever all the BBNs are, for the word of God is living and active.

34:45 Timothy: It goes into a courtroom, a woman weeps and it gets revealed to over 30 policemen, prosecutors, judges, bailiffs, their children and their friends.

34:54 Timothy: For the word of God is living and active.

34:58 Timothy: You walk into a church where that is happening, where real walking in the light is happening.

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35:05 Timothy: I don't have to produce it.

35:07 Timothy: I don't have to.

35:08 Timothy: In fact it would get in the way, but I wouldn't have to set up a committee to form.

35:12 Timothy: Can you imagine forming a committee to walk in the light?

35:15 Timothy: I can just see that happening.

35:17 Timothy: Yeah, or let's have a little prayer group about walking in the light.

35:20 Timothy: You know, you just got to walk in it.

35:22 Timothy: Living in active.

35:24 Timothy: That says the word of God and very clearly, I preach the word of God.

35:29 Timothy: You can throw my books away.

35:30 Timothy: In fact you have.

35:31 Timothy: I don't really Whatever how many you know on those books, you know he hammered the books.

35:40 Speaker 3: He wrote the books.

35:40 Speaker 3: He writes the books.

35:40 Speaker 3: He writes the books.

35:41 Speaker 3: Right the teachings of Timothy.

35:42 Timothy: William Right.

35:42 Timothy: How many books did I actually sold?

35:47 Speaker 3: Oh, a very low number Sold books is like a joke.

35:53 Timothy: I don't know Total joke.

35:54 Speaker 3: Books were given away, but sold.

35:57 Timothy: Ha ha.

35:57 Timothy: So he's prosecuting that which doesn't even go anywhere Technically.

36:03 Timothy: If my books, writing those books, was a crime and you were going to prosecute me for writing the books, with the implication obviously you're selling these books or profiting the books, right, yeah, there's no crime happening, because it was an absolute joke.

36:17 Timothy: All right, for the word of God is living and active, sharper than any double-edged sword.

36:23 Timothy: It's going to cut both ways.

36:25 Timothy: It's double-edged.

36:27 Timothy: Prosecutor Simmons, if I would rebuke somebody for sin, guess what?

36:31 Timothy: It's a double-edged sword.

36:32 Timothy: As I pull it back, it also cuts me, sharper than any double-edged sword.

36:38 Timothy: It penetrates the word of God.

36:40 Timothy: Look at the action here of what is being communicated.

36:43 Timothy: The word of God is living and active, sharper than a double-edged sword.

36:46 Timothy: It penetrates, even to dividing soul and spirit.

36:50 Timothy: Why do you think people intrinsically don't want to talk to me and why other people who like to do all of their slander say don't talk to him, don't go by the website, don't go look, because the word of God is active, it will penetrate, it will divide soul from spirit.

37:07 Timothy: I'm one of the slanders is.

37:09 Timothy: Oh, he's so nitpicky and it's all this over here.

37:11 Timothy: It's not me.

37:13 Timothy: The word of God can divide soul from spirit joints and marrow, soul from spirit joints and marrow.

37:24 Timothy: It judges the thoughts and the attitudes of the heart.

37:25 Timothy: When the word of God is really alive and I don't mean the hype you see on TV it's going to be in the quiet churches and it's going to be among the humble servants of God and the disciples of Jesus.

37:33 Timothy: You're not going to see it on TV, you're not going to see it in the large churches.

37:36 Timothy: You really will not see it in Mark Larson's church that his father formed, that it's not even close.

37:42 Timothy: But the word of God, when it's moving and you can't force it and you can't just pray it on, it's a humility thing of surrendering before God it will penetrate to dividing the soul and the spirit in your thoughts.

37:56 Timothy: That's why you know well, I didn't mean this and I didn't mean that.

37:59 Timothy: Look, we're talking a fine cutting here.

38:01 Timothy: God may come in and go.

38:03 Timothy: Yeah, you know what?

38:04 Timothy: 99% of that was good, but guess what?

38:07 Timothy: This one sliver.

38:09 Timothy: It's got to be cut.

38:10 Timothy: And notice the word cut, the word of God divides.

38:14 Timothy: It cuts out this impurity.

38:16 Timothy: Or more often, the case is maybe there's some good aspect, but there's a lot of these larger aspects that have to be cut away.

38:23 Timothy: I'm just telling you that you, what am I trying to communicate?

38:28 Timothy: The dividing of our thoughts, pointing out that which is unholy, impure and unclean, that which is kind of a lie, sort of a lie, a white lie, a dark lie.

38:46 Timothy: Most people go through their whole life and there's absolutely no aspect of the Word of God coming in and doing any cutting.

38:52 Timothy: We're talking about dividing soul from spirit, joints from marrow.

38:55 Timothy: It judges the thoughts and the attitudes of the heart.

38:57 Timothy: The Word of God, surrendered to the living word of God, walking in the light, will judge your thoughts and the attitudes of your heart.

39:05 Timothy: Most people do not want to go through that kind of suffering.

39:09 Timothy: Every single day, as you walk through God, whether you're lying down for a nap or you're up doing anything else, the word of God is going to come in and it's going to judge your thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

39:20 Timothy: And yet what do you hear preached in the church?

39:23 Timothy: Jacob, there is no judgment in Jesus Christ.

39:26 Timothy: There is no condemnation.

39:26 Speaker 3: He loves you.

39:27 Speaker 3: You're special.

39:28 Speaker 3: There's worth in you.

39:29 Speaker 3: I am.

39:31 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what's preached.

39:34 Timothy: I didn't know that, that I was special yes.

39:36 Timothy: But that's what I didn't mean.

39:37 Timothy: To cut you off there, no, no no, I uh.

39:39 Speaker 3: I don't know if they usually use the word special I'm sure some people do but definitely that you have worth.

39:44 Timothy: God sees worth in you I don't have anybody ever tell me that anyway, we're talking about.

39:50 Timothy: It judges the thoughts.

39:52 Timothy: So you get a thought, mr simmons, you're going to get judged in your case can complete.

39:59 Timothy: It.

40:00 Timothy: Judges the thoughts and just the attitude of the heart, the attitude.

40:05 Timothy: Do you get the power that's happening here if you surrender to it?

40:10 Timothy: So your thoughts get judged like oh, that's unholy, that's unclean, that's impure and man alive.

40:15 Timothy: Anybody following Jesus Christ, the mind controlled by the spirit, is life and peace.

40:19 Timothy: Romans tells us.

40:20 Timothy: But in order to get there, your thoughts have to be judged.

40:24 Timothy: But think about the fact that God is judging the attitude of our hearts.

40:29 Timothy: You know your child gets up just a bad attitude.

40:34 Timothy: You know, forget any specifics, right, you go.

40:37 Timothy: Hey, knock off the bad attitude.

40:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, that used to be when people could actually discipline their kids.

40:42 Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead, oh nothing.

40:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can have a kid that has the.

40:48 Timothy: they haven't said anything yet but you can see the attitude on their face Exactly.

40:51 Timothy: Attitude about everything.

40:51 Timothy: They may be totally obedient.

40:53 Timothy: They may clean the room, eat all their peas I don't know.

40:56 Timothy: Did eat all their peas, I don't know.

41:00 Timothy: Did they make kids do anything anymore?

41:01 Timothy: No, okay, well, let's see.

41:02 Timothy: I guess there's nothing to judge.

41:02 Timothy: All right, the spoiled attitude of the heart, whatever it is, this is what we're talking about when we talk about the word of God.

41:08 Timothy: The one reason we know this to be true where a church is at the conspiracy is to ignore what I'm saying.

41:15 Timothy: Well, why, if it's just me being a lunatic, if it's just me just mouthing off junk, if it's just me being religious or selling my books or whatever it is I'm supposed to be doing, then they're just words, they're meaningless.

41:29 Timothy: But if you examine, if you listen and God begins to do the work, a lot of things are going to get judged, aren't they?

41:37 Timothy: Jacob?

41:37 Timothy: Yes, all right.

41:38 Timothy: Hebrews 4.13.

41:40 Timothy: I'm going to let you read that, jacob, and then we're going to pound that in with the hammer and nail upon the cross.

41:46 Speaker 3: Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.

41:49 Speaker 3: Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him, to whom we must give account.

41:57 Timothy: We don't have time to look at it.

41:59 Timothy: We did this on some of our first podcasts with Ananias and Sapphira, because people will say, well, only God knows my heart.

42:05 Timothy: And of course, when they say that, what are they saying?

42:09 Timothy: I have a good heart and God knows my heart.

42:10 Timothy: Nobody ever says, well, only God knows my heart, and it's wicked and it's violent and it's corrupt and I need to change.

42:15 Timothy: Pray for me.

42:16 Timothy: When's the last time you heard that?

42:20 Timothy: No, no.

42:20 Timothy: And of course, if I went around saying that you're a child of God, you're blessed, you're forgiven, you don't forgive yourself enough.

42:24 Timothy: Let's see, you had some of the better ones down, jacob.

42:27 Timothy: I don't know them all.

42:28 Timothy: You're blessed, you're supposed to be happy.

42:30 Timothy: I don't know what.

42:30 Timothy: All is right, it'd be accepted.

42:32 Timothy: But if I say your heart's deceitful of all things and God's going to reveal that and you can bring that into a church, out in the light, he's going to use church and fellowship.

42:42 Timothy: You know, mr Simmons, just even the part of fellowshipping and loving one another in Jesus Christ, of having all things in common and laying down your life, brings up all kinds of things that get purified.

42:52 Timothy: It's a family.

42:53 Timothy: We're not talking your courtroom family, whatever that is courtroom of corruption, oppression and all those kinds of things.

43:01 Timothy: We're talking the dynamics of a family.

43:03 Timothy: If I said to somebody, well, write down your, how does your family work, you know that would be pretty hard to describe in all the details.

43:12 Timothy: Now a whining complaining person would.

43:14 Timothy: Well, it's dysfunctional.

43:15 Timothy: It's all that stuff we're all into.

43:17 Timothy: Like I grew up dysfunctional, you know, blah, blah, blah.

43:21 Timothy: Anyway, nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight, nothing.

43:25 Timothy: So now we're walking in the light.

43:27 Timothy: We've been told this in 1 John, now we're in Hebrews that nothing is hidden, not a single thought, not a single attitude.

43:33 Timothy: And what people forget and refuse to understand is it's true, it is absolutely true, that only God knows your heart, but we seem to forget the fact that God will reveal your heart out in the open.

43:47 Timothy: In fact, what is one of the warnings of the judgment seat of Christ?

43:50 Timothy: It will be shouted on the rooftop.

43:52 Timothy: One of the blessings of the church is to get cleaned up now so that when we're in heaven we're not condemned and having all of our crimes and sins declared throughout.

44:02 Timothy: Whatever, all universal means, whatever that means, nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight, and walking in the light means he will, in his time and in his way and into the depth he wants to reveal the things that need to change.

44:19 Timothy: Everything is uncovered.

44:21 Timothy: Everything is uncovered All your little you know redacted information here or hiding this over here, all the little discussions you had and little emails and all the other people that you talk to behind the scenes for which there is no record of but influenced you to prosecute and persecute true saints of God will be revealed.

44:42 Timothy: Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him, to whom we must give an account.

44:49 Timothy: And if you're unwilling to walk in the light with brothers and sisters in the Lord who are seeking the living God, you're not going to be able to stand on the judgment seat.

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45:01 Timothy: Do they really think, jacob, that they won't walk in the light now?

45:04 Timothy: Simmons won't call and go.

45:06 Timothy: You know, I'm seeing this.

45:07 Timothy: Here's the truth of all these situations.

45:09 Timothy: Let's get in the light, let's reveal these things.

45:11 Timothy: I made these errors.

45:12 Timothy: If he's not, if they're willing to conspire all these people are willing to conspire to ignore the corruption that went on with Detective McCall, judge Lori K Smith and the whole system to put an innocent man in prison so that they could achieve some goal of destroying a Christian church that they didn't agree with.

45:30 Timothy: Do you really think they're going to be able to stand before the living God?

45:33 Timothy: No, well, you know, it's often been said.

45:38 Timothy: You know I'm judgment judgmental, right, jacob?

45:40 Timothy: Uh, yes, you're too judgy, judgy.

45:43 Speaker 3: Have you heard the actual word judgy?

45:45 Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know, not necessarily.

45:47 Speaker 3: That's certainly the childish attitude I agree.

45:50 Timothy: Uh too, judgy, um sound action church.

45:53 Timothy: Were we ever accused of being judgy or judgmental?

45:57 Timothy: Yes, yeah, I know Well, guess what, Mr Simmons?

46:02 Timothy: That's the sign of a good church.

46:05 Timothy: Let me repeat that the sign of a good church that is walking in the light and the humility of Jesus Christ preaching the word of God is judgy.

46:14 Timothy: Is that a Greek word?

46:16 Timothy: Jacob?

46:17 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

46:17 Speaker 3: I like it, it works.

46:20 Timothy: Yeah, that would be the good children's version, judgy.

46:22 Timothy: Well, let's go to 1 Corinthians, 14, 22, because, well, I was going to say I know you want evidence, but no, you don't want evidence.

46:30 Timothy: So I guess we could just.

46:31 Timothy: You know, sometimes we had to just read from my books just to be annoying.

46:33 Timothy: Oh sure, because after all I do, all I really do is quote scripture throughout those books and arranging the way where people can actually get before the lord.

46:46 Timothy: In fact, you'll have to get before the lord if you read any of my books, you know it's not that kind of joyful experience.

46:48 Timothy: That's why I let's see I last I checked six million sales anyway.

46:52 Timothy: First, corinthians 14, 22, not going to be able to explain all of this to you.

46:57 Timothy: It says tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers.

47:04 Timothy: Tongues is for real, but it's not what you see on TV, it's not what would happen to a prophecy conference, but it does exist.

47:14 Timothy: It is for real, just as the second part of the sentence.

47:18 Timothy: Prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

47:22 Timothy: All right, the scripture is going to explain what's happening here and I want you to imagine yourself as an unbeliever actually attending Sound Doctrine Church or anybody actually checking on evidence, guess what you will be judged.

47:41 Timothy: You will be judged First.

47:50 Timothy: Corinthians 14, 23 says so.

47:50 Timothy: If the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues and some do not understand, or some believer comes in, will they not say that you're out of your mind?

47:55 Timothy: We do say that you go into church.

47:58 Timothy: Everybody's like, yeah, praise God, I can't even do the noise thing, and they're speaking in tongues and babbling on and you go.

48:03 Timothy: Man, that's just crazy.

48:04 Timothy: It's only something that kind of people enjoy, but it's not scriptural to see that.

48:10 Timothy: All right, here's the next part that is very important, because a church that is actually walking in the light, filled with the Holy Spirit, hating their own life yes, hating their father and their mother, their brothers and sisters, laying down their lives for one another, hating and despising money all the things that you find objectionable walking in the light will prophesy.

48:37 Timothy: Will prophesy what that means is it's not nobody walked around in robes and hoods and oh, we're prophesying, right, jacob, correct?

48:48 Timothy: Was there any of like?

48:50 Timothy: Oh, tim's prophesying at the pulpit?

48:54 Timothy: No, or that sermon was really a prophecy.

48:57 Timothy: Has that ever been said by anybody?

48:59 Speaker 3: No, no, it wasn't Well.

49:01 Speaker 3: A lot of churches.

49:02 Speaker 3: A prophetic message, Prophetic message.

49:05 Speaker 3: That's what it is Thank you.

49:06 Timothy: I'm so glad you're involved deeper in the world than you get Prophetic message.

49:10 Timothy: Oh, it's on the internet everywhere.

49:12 Timothy: Oh, it's a prophetic message and of course I'll read through it.

49:24 Speaker 3: There course, I'll read through it.

49:25 Speaker 3: There's like no specific.

49:26 Timothy: Yeah, there's no specifics at all it's like be holy, okay, okay, get rid of sin.

49:27 Speaker 3: Okay, if it even says that a big change is coming, a change is coming that's okay.

49:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

49:30 Speaker 3: Like you know, judgment is coming.

49:30 Speaker 3: Well, that's true.

49:31 Timothy: Anyway, may not be what you like, but yes, it is coming yeah, all right, but prophecy is, since everybody's dying to self, there's a measure of the Holy Spirit filling each person, and the book of Revelation says the preaching of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy, meaning each person's being filled with God.

49:50 Timothy: It doesn't mean they realize that they're prophesying.

49:53 Timothy: It's not this.

49:54 Timothy: What it is is the power of God flowing through walking light.

49:58 Timothy: Man, can you see me explaining this to a jury?

50:00 Timothy: No, or that Judge Laurie K Smith would even give me the time of day, a month or whatever to explain this?

50:08 Timothy: No, pressing on in the hope that God can open up at least one person's mind to this, all right.

50:16 Timothy: But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in, well, everybody is prophesying.

50:21 Timothy: So this isn't some special thing that Tim Williams has that nobody else has.

50:26 Timothy: Everybody, from the lowliest Christian all the way to the top, can have to a certain measure, depending on what God wants to work, a measure of prophecy.

50:35 Timothy: Now, what does it say, jacob?

50:39 Timothy: I'm going to let you read this part, just to give us a contrast.

50:42 Timothy: Read 1 Corinthians, 14, 24, and prosecutor Simmons pay very close attention to the last part of what he's going to read.

50:52 Speaker 3: He will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all.

51:00 Timothy: Oh, hang on just a second.

51:02 Timothy: You mean anybody visiting a church like this, a loving Christian church, right?

51:08 Timothy: Isn't Paul commending this church?

51:11 Timothy: Yes, he's saying this is a good thing when everybody's prophesying, right?

51:15 Timothy: Yes, so a visitor comes in, watches everybody or prophesying and this comes out in fellowship or discussion.

51:24 Timothy: It's not like everybody's babbling, that's not what man, this is just fellowship.

51:29 Timothy: It means, for instance, somebody.

51:34 Timothy: It happened a few times where people would come up to me in the church and say, man, that was a really good sermon.

51:37 Timothy: And my attitude always was and it's going to sound cruder than it is but my attitude was well, I really don't care what you're saying, I want to know what God is saying.

51:46 Timothy: See, that's the difference between a prophecy would be if somebody, a brother or sister, comes up and in the Holy Spirit, says that was a really encouraging sermon or that was a truthful sermon, or it's really cut by it and it's coming from the Holy Spirit, then I can take that in, I can say thank you Jesus, I can be humble.

52:03 Timothy: But if it's the, you know, somebody just liking the sermon and saying, oh, that was a good sermon and that's just coming from them, that really is totally meaningless to me.

52:12 Timothy: Is that kind of clear what the prophecy is?

52:15 Timothy: Jacob?

52:15 Timothy: Yes, prophecy is Jacob.

52:24 Timothy: Yes.

52:24 Timothy: Let me see if I can do another example here, because I can tell it kind of wasn't Meaning somebody's dealing with something in their life, a sin or a problem or whatever, but they're not really talking about it, they're not really bringing up.

52:32 Timothy: But you're discussing with them and you share a scripture with them, or in the process of the discussion it gets revealed what's going on.

52:41 Timothy: That's the power of God addressing the needs within the church to build the church up.

52:48 Timothy: Well, when the visitor comes in, they're under a place of condemnation, they're under a place of sin.

52:54 Timothy: I thoroughly test these church signs Come be blessed us for this sunday or this easter sunday or, you know, the christmas sunday, that that mr prosecutor simmons likes, not the one where you give to the poor, but the one where santa's on the throne or whatever.

53:07 Timothy: All right, a person comes in, everybody's prophesying the.

53:11 Timothy: The unbeliever says, will be judged by all and will be convinced that he's a sinner.

53:18 Timothy: He will be convinced by all that he is, by all that he's a sinner.

53:22 Timothy: He will be convinced by all that he's a sinner.

53:23 Timothy: This isn't Tim Williams running down through the congregation going oh, you're a sinner, and you're a sinner and here I'm going to trap you over here and this way I'm not a prosecutor.

53:31 Timothy: I'm not like you, mr Simmons.

53:33 Timothy: I don't cast doubts on everything.

53:35 Timothy: This is the Word of God, prophesying and working.

53:38 Timothy: It says they will be convinced.

53:40 Timothy: There is a thinking process, there is a revelation process.

53:44 Timothy: There is a truthful process, not a trapping process, not where you're up on the stand and you got little baby mama judge up there willing to say, hey, you shut up or you can't answer this way.

53:55 Timothy: And you got a defense attorney saying this over here and the prosecutor says well, I don't like the way that's being said.

53:59 Timothy: Why don't you guys just give scripts?

54:01 Timothy: Just save us some time.

54:02 Timothy: I can just see me sitting here trying.

54:05 Timothy: Can you imagine the first time I said well, let's turn to 1 Corinthians 14, 24.

54:10 Timothy: Prosecutor Simmons is going to go ballistic.

54:11 Timothy: We want to hear it in your own words, right?

54:14 Timothy: Yeah, well, those are my own words.

54:16 Timothy: And the judge is going to go.

54:18 Timothy: Yeah, yeah, just put it in your own words.

54:20 Timothy: They're not going to let me talk, Not the way that I talk.

54:22 Timothy: Well, those are my own.

54:24 Timothy: Anyway, just bring the phone book in, smack us on the side of the head and tell us what you want us to say.

54:28 Timothy: Does that make any sense?

54:30 Timothy: Most people don't know what I mean by phone book.

54:33 Timothy: Okay, it used to be.

54:35 Timothy: There was a thing called phone books and they were really thick and heavy, especially in New York, depending where you live, and the cops would bring you in, sit you down and when you didn't give the answer they like or whatever, they'd just smack you over the head with a phone book.

54:46 Timothy: It's in movies, went on, and now they do all kinds of other things.

54:51 Timothy: Oh man, I'm getting sidetracked here.

54:53 Timothy: I hope this is getting explained.

54:59 Timothy: He will be convinced by all that he's a sinner.

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55:00 Timothy: There is a convincing process.

55:01 Timothy: There is a thinking process.

55:02 Timothy: It isn't like any of these podcasts have gone.

55:04 Timothy: Well, mr Simmons, you'rea sinner, or Judge Walker, you're a sinner and leave it at that.

55:08 Timothy: Isn't that what you see?

55:09 Timothy: Even if you get close to a church actually telling someone they're a sinner, like a judge does something wrong, you might hear some Christians sometimes say they're just sinners.

55:20 Timothy: You'll pay for that at the end, right?

55:22 Timothy: No specifics, no direction, nothing about it that would convince them that they're sinners.

55:28 Timothy: It's just all kind of vague out there and it's a really it's a lazy preaching of the gospel.

55:34 Timothy: It means you want God to just do all the work and you're not willing to speak out of love.

55:39 Timothy: The only reason I'm doing this is I'm trying to love King County.

55:42 Timothy: Courts, prosecutors, judges, policemen, everybody involved.

55:47 Timothy: They don't want it.

55:50 Timothy: Fine, I'll do it out of the love for God.

55:51 Timothy: He will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all.

56:00 Timothy: Wouldn't it be nice to have a church building, jacob and I could put out there?

56:02 Timothy: Come here and be convinced you're a sinner.

56:05 Speaker 3: Come be judged by all.

56:07 Speaker 3: Come be judged by all.

56:10 Timothy: Now, who do you think?

56:12 Timothy: Well, anybody showing up, one guy would probably have to be drawing them or they'd just be coming to cause trouble.

56:19 Timothy: But would I be seen in the community as a Christian?

56:22 Timothy: No, well, don't you think Enumclaw felt the judgment?

56:27 Timothy: Don't you think the other pastors in town felt the judgment?

56:32 Timothy: I mean, there's an awful lot of ruckus among Enumclaw City for what we did.

56:37 Timothy: All right, read 1 Corinthians 14, 25, jacob, and it gets worse than that Prosecution assumes.

56:46 Timothy: It gets worse than that.

56:47 Timothy: They'll be convinced by all their sinners, be judged by all, judged by all, everybody judging them.

56:53 Timothy: That's a good godly church.

56:55 Timothy: That's a good godly church?

56:57 Timothy: Don't see it, but that's a good one.

56:59 Timothy: First Corinthians 14, 25.

57:01 Timothy: And what does it say, jacob Verse?

57:03 Speaker 3: 25.

57:04 Speaker 3: And the secrets of his heart will be laid bare.

57:08 Timothy: So he will think about that.

57:09 Timothy: If proper, if we had a church that you hadn't scattered and destroyed and it was holy and it was being obedient and those are some big yes, but if it was there and you showed up, the secrets of your heart would be laid bare.

57:29 Timothy: Now you can see why sinners are not going to show up at Sound Doctrine Church.

57:37 Timothy: When it was there, right, jacob?

57:38 Timothy: Correct, it would have to be somebody that was remotely a little bit interested in the gospel, because it goes on to say so he will fall down and worship God.

57:50 Timothy: Wait a minute.

57:52 Timothy: You mean there's a judgment that comes through everybody and they don't go.

57:58 Timothy: Oh, I'm being judged by everybody.

58:01 Timothy: And Tim Williams thinks he's God.

58:03 Timothy: No, it says they fall down once their heart is laid bare and they worship God, exclaiming God is really among you.

58:12 Timothy: Do you see this anywhere, jacob?

58:15 Timothy: No, do you see this anywhere, jacob?

58:17 Timothy: No, If you have a church like this, contact me If it's out there anywhere.

58:31 Timothy: And they are.

58:32 Timothy: Again, I'm not implying there isn't.

58:32 Timothy: I know they're not big-time churches, they're not in the known, they don't even know my podcast.

58:37 Timothy: Why should they?

58:38 Timothy: If they're living this, they don't need me.

58:39 Timothy: The workers are few, but think about it.

58:44 Timothy: So he will fall down and worship God, not because he's being blessed, not because he can find a husband or wife, not because he can find fulfillment, not because he's just giving up these.

58:56 Timothy: You know outward things, like everybody knows he's a drug addict or he's an alcoholic and all these outward things.

59:01 Timothy: His heart was laid bare and he so much to the degree that he fell down, couldn't even stand on his feet, couldn't even stand on his feet.

59:21 Timothy: So humble, so broken, and on that position of falling down on the floor before God exclaims with his mouth God is really among you podcast wwwconsiderinfo.