Clip: Wa. State Petition Scam

Hoover Dam Cost Discussion

0:00 Speaker 1: Hoover Dam.

0:01 Speaker 2: Yes, I have.

0:02 Speaker 1: You have.

0:03 Speaker 1: What do you think?

0:03 Speaker 1: Was it completed on time with no cost overruns?

0:10 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to flip on this one just because I don't know.

0:13 Speaker 2: I'm going to say that the Hoover Dam was.

0:17 Speaker 2: I'll just yeah.

0:20 Speaker 2: I'm going to say both.

0:21 Speaker 2: I'm going to give both a win.

0:23 Speaker 2: They got it done on time and on budget.

0:28 Speaker 1: You're actually half wrong.

0:29 Speaker 1: Okay, sort of Okay, it wasn't on budget.

0:32 Speaker 1: Are you ready?

0:33 Speaker 1: Write this down, because you're going to want to take note of just how incompetent the government was back then.

0:41 Speaker 1: It had an overrun cost.

0:43 Speaker 2: We're talking the Hoover Dam, all this cement and structure and going on right Years, years it took them to build $110,000 over cost.

0:52 Speaker 2: Well, that's not too bad.

0:54 Speaker 1: That's like nothing.

0:55 Speaker 1: That's like nothing.

0:56 Speaker 2: Well, back then, technically, I wonder if people whined like, oh my goodness, the government's wasting our money.

1:02 Speaker 2: If they whined back then, or if it was not a big deal, Because even $110,000 back then would have been a lot of money.

1:09 Speaker 1: Well, I'm guessing here a little bit.

1:10 Speaker 1: A lot of these projects had to do with the Depression era and it was designed to give people jobs.

1:15 Speaker 2: so they appreciated the jobs Correct, so nobody's going to be whining.

1:18 Speaker 2: They were like, hey, that's cool, that's okay.

1:20 Speaker 1: Correct, and when they did the dam they didn't have to do all the environmental protection agency junk that slows everything down.

1:28 Speaker 1: You didn't have all these bureaucracies going in.

1:30 Speaker 1: You didn't have 100 different people with their hand in the pie.

1:33 Speaker 1: Maybe you had one or two, but you didn't have hundreds of sub-bureaucratic type stuff with their hands going on.

Dam Completed Ahead of Schedule

1:48 Speaker 2: So it was only 0.2% above the original bid.

1:49 Speaker 2: Oh, that's nothing, that's not even significant.

1:50 Speaker 2: Oh, no, yeah, that's not significant at all.

1:54 Speaker 1: Now, we do have to admit that it was not completed on time.

1:58 Speaker 2: Ah, okay, how late.

2:01 Speaker 1: Well, I hate to say this.

2:03 Speaker 1: Okay, are you going to force me to say it?

2:06 Speaker 2: Yes.

2:07 Speaker 1: It was completed ahead of schedule.

2:09 Speaker 1: Okay really yeah Over two years early.

2:16 Speaker 2: Really, I didn't know that Two years, that is fast, two years early.

2:21 Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

2:22 Speaker 1: Well, part of what we're looking at here and I'm talking about is Warrior.

State Government Criticism

2:25 Speaker 1: Your state's foundations are crumbling, they're gone Inslee and Ferguson and the Democrats have just.

2:30 Speaker 1: They're thoroughly destroyed and you can take everything I'm talking about and just apply it to the legal system.

2:34 Speaker 1: But look at the transit, just look at the amount of incompetence, corruption lies and then they just keep taxing on top of it to justify their expense.

2:49 Speaker 1: And then you got the worst Supreme Court committing you know right rape and coming in and going.

2:54 Speaker 1: Oh, the people don't know what they're voting for.

2:56 Speaker 1: It's misleading there.

2:57 Speaker 1: Before we throw it out, how come that always just applies to everything the state wants, by the way Correct, because it's corrupt.

3:03 Speaker 1: I mean the only time.

3:04 Speaker 1: The worst Supreme Court.

3:05 Speaker 1: Oh, it was misleading.

3:06 Speaker 1: You know how I can solve that problem.

3:07 Speaker 1: I can solve that problem today where you go through this whole thing.

3:12 Speaker 1: People sign the petition the amount of work involved by the average citizen, I mean.

3:17 Speaker 1: While I don't like signing those petitions either, I appreciate the people that are doing the work because that's a lot of labor and a lot of time to go out to get people to sign up for these things.

3:26 Speaker 1: So you go through this whole rigmarole.

3:29 Speaker 1: You got to get the money and I'm sure you got to know there's hundreds of laws associated with that, correct?

3:35 Speaker 1: You can't just go here's a clipboard and do this, right, yeah, and I bet there's fees involved.

3:41 Speaker 1: Somebody that does this, write me and let me know all the things you have to do.

3:46 Speaker 1: Okay, so how could we solve this problem?

3:48 Speaker 1: We go through this whole procedure.

3:49 Speaker 1: The election goes through, then we have the lawsuits which wastes money, which is in the state of Oregon.

3:53 Speaker 1: Then it goes to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court says nah, nah, misleading.

3:57 Speaker 1: Oh, what was it?

3:57 Speaker 1: You wanted Inslee?

3:58 Speaker 1: What was it?

3:59 Speaker 1: You wanted Ferguson?

3:59 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, you can have what you want.

4:02 Speaker 1: People are stupid.

4:03 Speaker 1: They don't know what they're talking about.

4:04 Speaker 1: They were clueless about paying license tabs for the car.

4:09 Speaker 1: People just can't figure it out.

4:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, got a little long-winded there, All right.

Proposing Court Pre-Approval Solution

4:16 Speaker 2: How can we solve this problem instantly?

4:18 Speaker 1: Throw some people in jail.

4:19 Speaker 1: Well, that would be satisfying, but it wouldn't solve the problem.

4:25 Speaker 1: It would put the fear in some of the judges.

4:29 Speaker 1: Nah, they hide up there in their black.

4:30 Speaker 1: We are so I can't even think of the word.

4:34 Speaker 1: We're not even noticed by them.

4:37 Speaker 1: They don't even care.

4:39 Speaker 1: The Malcolm Frazier trial there are so many ways they could have come in to fix this thing.

4:42 Speaker 1: Not only are they not interested, they just don't care, it's just a thing to them.

4:48 Speaker 1: They don't matter.

4:50 Speaker 1: The way you solve this problem is that you put together the petition that you're going to have signed.

4:56 Speaker 1: You submit it to the court before you go get the signatures.

5:00 Speaker 1: The court has two weeks.

5:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to have to work for a living.

5:03 Speaker 1: They got two weeks to look at it and they sign off on it or they say no, it's not right.

5:08 Speaker 1: Then you go gather the signatures.

5:13 Speaker 2: Oh, I see, yeah, yeah, yeah.

5:14 Speaker 2: I see what you mean.

5:15 Speaker 2: You make the court approve, but the thing is, I think you have to have the signatures before they even look at it.

5:22 Speaker 2: I think that's the loophole they get people in.

5:24 Speaker 1: Oh, but you're saying how to fix it.

5:26 Speaker 1: You just change the rule.

5:27 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, yes, yes, I agree, correct, they should say well but no, well, oh, not to get but the car tabs, all these initiatives that they put forward.

5:36 Speaker 2: The crazy part is the government already looks at it.

5:39 Speaker 2: They have to.

5:40 Speaker 2: The government looks at it before it goes on the ballot and somebody had already somebody in some government office, already signed off on it.

5:48 Speaker 1: So they're just, oh, lots of people, yeah a bunch of people have to review the wording before it goes on the ballot that's right.

5:55 Speaker 1: You have the supreme court where supreme could go.

5:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is good or not then?

5:59 Speaker 1: Then it satisfies them when we don't have to go oh, I see the supreme court has to approve it.

6:04 Speaker 2: okay, I'd, I'd go for that, yeah.

6:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely Like when they turned this down and said it was misleading.

6:09 Speaker 1: Do you think they typed it out like?

6:11 Speaker 1: This is how it should have been read?

6:13 Speaker 1: No, well, what kind of corruption is this?

6:16 Speaker 1: Where you go, it's like telling a kid, go do chores right.

Systemic Corruption Reflection

6:19 Speaker 1: And then he goes and does chores.

6:21 Speaker 1: You go well, I didn't mean those chores, yeah.

6:22 Speaker 1: And you go well, I didn't mean those chores.

6:23 Speaker 1: Or you didn't do this chores right, or I didn't mean to do it right then.

6:26 Speaker 1: But you never tell the kid what he's supposed to do or how the chores are supposed to come out.

6:32 Speaker 1: It is just a license for corruption, for everybody to put their finger in the pie when it would be easily solved.

6:38 Speaker 1: And again I'm talking the Supreme Court gets two weeks to decide or it's automatically approved.

6:44 Speaker 1: I'm not playing this six months game.

6:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can all sit down and do their little read together, have a little book club and go okay, what are the petitions for this year?

6:52 Speaker 1: And actually do some work.

6:55 Speaker 1: Of course, I'd be turning off their air conditioning during the summer, but that's just kind of where I'm at.

6:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, All right.

7:00 Speaker 1: So what's the point of all this stuff?